WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
37%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



the thunderer 11:44 Thu Jul 28
What are British values?
According to an old article in the Telegraph, they are:

To begin with, it would emphasise the rule of law, and specifically the common law tradition that can be traced back to before the Norman Conquest. Our society is based on the idea that we all abide by the same rules, whatever our wealth or status. As Thomas Fuller said in 1733, “Be ye never so high the law is above you.”

Second is the sovereignty of the Crown in Parliament. The Lords, the Commons and the monarch constitute the supreme authority in the land. In recent years this has been extended to the Supreme Court.

Third is tolerance: no one should be treated differently on the basis of belonging to a particular group. By the same token, all parties, sects, faiths and ideologies must tolerate the existence of their rivals. On the other hand, there should be no toleration at all of unequal treatment of men and women.

Fourth is personal freedom and a presumption against state coercion.

Fifth are free speech and freedom of expression, including an unfettered, vibrant and pluralistic media.

Sixth is a belief in private property and the freedom to buy and sell without fear of confiscation, to transfer ownership, to sign contracts and have them enforced.

Seventh are those institutions that are quintessentially British and capture and reflect its character. They would include the monarchy, the Armed Forces, the Church and, yes, the BBC.

Eighth would be our history and culture. A lack of understanding of the past is instrumental in a failure to comprehend the present. If Michael Gove, the Education Secretary, wants children to learn why British values matter he should make history a compulsory subject to age 16.

Ninth would be our love of sport and of fair play. We are not alone in this; but it is often forgotten that most of the major sports played around the world were codified in this country.

Last, in what is by no means an exhaustive list, is patriotism – not in the pretended sense derided by Johnson as “the last refuge of the scoundrel”, but real and generous love of country. It is, therefore, hard to believe that the nation itself is at risk less than 100 days from now, when Scotland votes on whether to sunder it after more than 300 years. The debate about “British values” would then take on a very different perspective.

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riosleftsock 2:14 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?
Thats the ticket, and a garibaldi

the thunderer 2:10 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?
Ilford

Right Move

IlfordArmy 2:09 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?
who trained you ?

boltkunt 1:50 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?
Black two sugars, stirred clockwise for 15 seconds and set to rest for 1 minute before adding milk?

riosleftsock 1:44 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?
Pop the kettle on Bolty.

boltkunt 1:43 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?
That whenever shit hits the fan, before we decide on a plan we should all have a cup of tea and calm the fuck down.

Sven Roeder 1:42 Thu Jul 28
Socks and sandals
(nt)

orwells tragedy 1:35 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?
HairyHammer 11:52 Thu Jul 28

I like that.

Lily Hammer 1:25 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?
Self-depreciating irony.

(If only I was clever enough to understand what that meant).

Robson 1:25 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?
More or less "The West Ham Way" on a national level.

BarkingMadHammer 1:14 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?

The worlds greatest queuers . . .

We stand in line and wait our turn ! Let the world know that if anyone should jump the queue there will be little done other than a lot of huffing and puffing and tutting !!!

Queue jumpers . . . (*spits on floor . . . ) The moral benchmark for declining society standards

Northern Sold 12:32 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?
Owning a Black labrador and a shot gun (not sawn off)

Darby_ 12:27 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?
At it's best, a love of freedom and intellectual creativity.

stomper 12:27 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?
2/- 6d

HairyHammer 12:06 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?
Nurse Ratched

You've still got the Commonwealth games Nurse, you cannot rule the world forever.

riosleftsock 11:59 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?
Inventing lots of great sports and then proceeding to be utterly shit at them for ages.

Takashi Miike 11:57 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?
only using butter on crumpets

Nurse Ratched 11:55 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?
Self-loathing moral cowardice.

HairyHammer 11:52 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?
Democracy & Law, Human rights, Fairness for all, respect, decency, good manners, Tolerance, inner strength charity.

Many more I am sure.

Alex V 11:46 Thu Jul 28
Re: What are British values?
Well, it's the Telegraph... lol at how they mention the BBC through gritted teeth.

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